Sexism and the Media, 2008

Here it is, the most articulate delineation of "Sexism in the Media" I've seen so far (as it relates to 2008, of course).  Check out Michelle Goldberg's piece from The New Republic after the jump.

Michelle Goldberg over at The New Republic wrote exactly what I have been thinking about 2008 and Sexism in the Media.  A quick paragraph:

Of course, Clinton has encountered straight-up misogyny--lots of it.  At the same time, anger at obvious instances of sexism has expanded to encompass every setback she's faced, every jab thrown her way--the cut and thrust of any normal campaign.  Several of her feminist defenders, for example, interpreted calls for Clinton to drop out, lest she cause aparty rift, as expressions of condescending gender bias.  "The first woman ever to win a presidential primary is supposed to stop competing, to curtsy and exit stage right," Ellen Malcolm, founder and president of Emily's List, wrote in The Washington Post on May 10.  But that wasn't anti-woman or even anti-Clinton; it was just Democratic politics.  Similar worries were aired about Edward Kennedy in 1980--a Christian Science Monitor story claimed his "to-the-bitter-end candidacy already may be irreparably splitting the Democratic Party"--and about Jerry Brown in 1992, once Bill Clinton came near a mathematical lock on the nomination.

I highly recommend reading the whole thing.  Michelle has it exactly right.  

That said, "Sexism in the media" is a pretty generic term--with an implication that there is some kind of coordinated effort, a subtext of all coverage that is intentionally sexist or misogynistic.  I'm not sure I agree with that--what I've seen, instead, are some offenders repeatedly making outrageous, gratuitous gender-based slams, individuals who are paid as much for their "entertainment value" as they are their "expertise."  Is it a surprise anymore when Chris Matthews opens his mouth and shoves in his foot?  Pat Buchanan?  That walking pile of feces on CNN who defended the use of "bitch" as a pejorative?  This kind of blatant, overt sexism is something we can all see, quantify, measure; the more ominous prospect is the latent sexism, words, phrases, and metaphors that are much harder to discern, much more difficult to combat--and the most resistant to change.

I have commented a few times--and since this is my diary, there's no way for me to take it out of context--that part of the "Sexism in the Media" narrative is, as Michelle demostrates, an attempt to rationalize Hillary Clinton not securing the nomination.  I'm not trying to rub it in--honest--but I think it's fair to point out that all the examples of sexism as it pertains to Hillary imply, at least in part, that the media had it out for Hillary and that's why she lost.  If that's not the thrust of the argument, then it must be that the media bias affected Democratic primary voters--if not both.  I'll grant the former, on the scale of individuals (who, as we all know, stay on the air so long as they get ratings), and acknowledge that it is part of the latter.  Still, racists aren't going to vote for Obama, whether the media is racially biased or not; equally, sexists/misogynists aren't going to vote for Hillary whether Chris Matthews says something reprehensible or not.

In all of this, I want to make clear that I reject sexism and racism in the media--but even the briefest glance at network (worse, cable) television reveals rampant sexist (and racist) stereotypes in highly popular programming.  People consume the product.  Is it really that big a leap to jump from Desperate Housewives or The Sopranos (finished, I know) to Hardball and Chris Matthews commenting on how attractive his female guests are?  Really?  (For the record, Chris Matthews says some astute things from time to time, proof that coherent thought sometimes resides in the strangest of places.)

Finally, we have an obligation to root out sexism (and racism), expose it, reject it, and try to change it.  It's going to be hard--harder because sometimes candidates use sexism (and racism) to their own advantage, further clouding the issue.  The fact that we had the first serious female and African-american candidates don't give us much to contrast, because both were blazing an unknown trail.  On balance, I don't think either sexism or racism substantially affected the outcome of this particular nomination process.



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Re: Sexism and the Media, 2008 (2.00 / 3)

To be clear, I'm not denying sexism in the media--I'm rejecting it as the cause of Hillary's defeat.


"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."
by AK Democrat on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 02:31:32 AM EST

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"On balance, I don't think either sexism or racism substantially affected the outcome of this particular nomination process."

Well, I completely disagree with this statement.  Not only was sexism a very real part of this nomination, all the good old boys in the democratic party were voting for the Man, when both senators from WV for example endorsed Obama even though their state voted 41 points for Clinton, add to that fact that Byrd used to be a member of the KKK, that has to be sexism at work, because he went against his whole state.  Didn't want the woman.

As for racism, why is it the case when 91% of a voting block votes for Obama that isn't some form of racism.  The AA vote is a perfect example of racism, black hatred of the "white woman" as expressed in Obama's church.  Now you can disagree with that but it is clearly a racial vote.  They chose to support Obama and mostly it was because of race.  It was not because he was the more qualified candidate, or the more experienced, it was because of his skin color.  Call it pride, call it what you will but it was clearly a racial thing.  They rejected the woman who had a proven record working on issues with their community and voted en masse for Obama.  Her record meant nothing to them, they deserted her in droves, the accusation of racism was a ploy promoted by the Obama campaign but I never believed that Clinton was any kind of racist.  The vile hatred coming from the AA community was way over the top, and why was that?  Did she do something against them?  No she was merely running for the nomination, but they hated her for it.  They are still hating her, and it was a drummed up charge that had no basis in reality.  They threatened saying that they would never vote for her, but before Obama they did in fact support her, but after that white priest strut on the stage and the reaction to his rant was shown, I realized just how much racism was a factor, right now in Obama favor, later, perhaps not.  One thing is for sure, there has been sexism, and racism and there will be more.  

Personally I found the party elites to be the most disgusting thing about this process.  They didn't want the woman, they wanted Obama, and not because he had a few more delegates but in my opinion because they did not want a woman.  These mostly men made their choice, this fall, I will make mine.


democrat voter
by democrat voter on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 02:46:35 AM EST

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When two candidates are substantially the same (90 to 95%), I have no problem whatsoever with women voting for the woman or blacks voting for the black.  I consider it a sexist or racist vote when gender or race is the sole consideration.

"One thing is for sure, there has been sexism, and racism and there will be more."

At least we can agree on that.

I could go straight to the First Black President and his remarks meant to marginalize Barack Obama to show you the tipping point of the whole election.  Words like "qualified," "merit," and "more experienced" are code that the GOP has used for years.  I was stationed at Langley AFB, VA during Jesse Helms last campaign and watched with disgust how a single ad--of a white hand, apparently receiving the job, having the job pulled away at the last second by a black hand--changed the whole election.  The GOP used the same words in 1990--"qualified," "merit," and "more experienced"--that the Clinton campaign pushed in 2008.  I'm not saying Clinton or her campaign is racist; I'm suggesting their experience argument struck the wrong chord with black america, and led in part to her defeat.

As a practical matter, if it was an "experience" election Bill Richardson would be the Democratic nominee.


"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."
by AK Democrat on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 03:18:50 AM EST
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[[The AA vote is a perfect example of racism, black hatred of the "white woman" as expressed in Obama's church.  Now you can disagree with that but it is clearly a racial vote.  They chose to support Obama and mostly it was because of race.]]

That's a racist statement on its face...


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by Mikeguyver on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 03:34:08 AM EST
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Hillary Clinton as well as Edwards had remarkably strong civil rights records.  So when pitted against them, the black candidate gets 91% of the black vote.  And we are not supposed to scratch our heads at this remarkable turn of events and even MENTION race based voting? Of couse not, that would damage the party line mantra about Obama "transcending race".  He transcended it to the nomination in South and North Carolina. Ah but my friends you're labeled a racist even if you BRING UP what's as plain as the nose on your face. I love this horseshit about Hillary's having EVERY advantage.  Well, not exactly, if you get my drift.


by handsomegent on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 05:36:05 AM EST
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Yeah, I mean, it's not like women are 60% of the voters or anything...oh wait.


by ProgressiveDL on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 07:03:38 AM EST
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Yeah, but that's the point.  She didn't get 92% of the women's vote.


by handsomegent on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 11:15:46 AM EST
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The reason she didn't win 92% of the women's vote, is that Obama didn't lose 92% of the woman's vote.

Obama didn't attempt to portray Clinton as "the female candidate". He attacked Clinton as Clinton.

Clinton campaign attempted to portray Obama as "the black candidate". And thus inevitably they lost the black vote.


by Aris Katsaris on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 07:48:53 PM EST
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They did no such thing.  Obama would have gotten the black vote regardless.  The "Clinton played the race card" business is just an excuse.  Now when HRC brought up Lyndon Johnson fulling MLK's dream, she was accused of racebaiting---what utter nonsense.  Obama got the black vote out of racial pride pure and simple.


by handsomegent on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 08:09:59 PM EST
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"They did no such thing."

Of course they did. Jesse Jackson comparisons, MLK vs LBJ comparisons, "shuck and jive" comments, "black hip friend" quote, Ferraro comments -- and always, ALWAYS how Obama was supposedly "unelectable" because of the developing pattern of not being able to gain the "white hard-working voters".

They were trying to present him as "the black and unelectable candidate" from the start all the way to the end. Even most of the scandals that he was hit with were about connections to angry black churches or to black nationalism.

"Now when HRC brought up Lyndon Johnson fulling MLK's dream, she was accused of racebaiting---what utter nonsense."

You're not gonna discuss this, you're just gonna dismiss it as nonsense?

She automatically put herself in the position of the white male president, and put Obama in the position of the black male orator. Why not compare herself to MLK? Why not compare Obama to LBJ?

What does the comparison even mean anyway? That MLK wasn't worthy of becoming president? Can you explain it to me, if it didn't mean that?

"Obama got the black vote out of racial pride pure and simple."

See, I told you you weren't interested in discussing, only in your unsupported conclusions.

If that was "pure and simple" then I feel he'd have gained those percentages from the start. But his percentages among black people kept rising from 40% before Iowa to 70% to 90% -- or more accurately Clinton's percentages kept dropping, because she kept trying to present Obama as "the black candidate" in more and more obvious ways.


by Aris Katsaris on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 08:26:02 PM EST
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I don't necessarily think the Clinton campaign intentionally used race as a strategy.  But SOMETHING caused Clinton to lose almost all African American support.  In November, 83% of African Americans viewed Hillary favorably, and only 10% unfavorably.  That was even better than Obama's numbers (74-10).  So don't give me this crap about African Americans always supporting Obama over her, because that's untrue.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/110 7/7065.html

By this month, she fell to 58% favorable, 36% unfavorable.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/107719/Among- Blacks-Hillary-Clintons-Image-Sinks-Over -Last-Year.aspx

Certainly, you could argue that Obama's favorables increased as he became more well known.  But how do you explain Hillary's absolutely catastrophic loss of favorability (and gain in unfavorability) among African Americans?  Blacks suddenly started to dislike her for no reason?


by ProgressiveDL on Sun Jun 08, 2008 at 07:40:27 PM EST
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I've discussed the effect of race on voting lots and lots of times.

But you're not discussing it, you're not "scratching your head over it", you're just leaping to your preordained conclusions. For example your conclusion that 90% indicates a greater bias than a 60% would.

Certainly 90% vote for Obama among black population indicates he was favoured in that group compared to whites -- by definition it means that. But it doesn't prove any greater bias than e.g. a  60% percentage of white votes for Clinton.

You know why not? Because it's impossible to have a proper control group. We don't know how the voting would have been if both candidates were purple. We know that race affected the situation, but we don't know in which direction. If both candidates and the whole voting body were purple we don't know if it'd have gone 60-40 in Clinton's favour or 80-20 in Obama's favour.

Besides African-Americans, Obama won among the highest-educated, the young, the liberals. These are groups that are likely to be less racially biased than the old, the conservative, the uneducated.

So, honestly, quit your whining. If you want to discuss racial influence on the vote, DISCUSS IT, don't just demand that we accept your unsupported conclusions.

And as a sidenote, let me remind you that saying "Obama got 90% of the black vote" is just as valid as saying "Clinton only got 10% of the black vote".


by Aris Katsaris on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 07:40:20 PM EST
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Excuse me but why do people have to try to sound like they are geniuses on this website (that they can see the truth) that they have some superior mumbo jumbo to try to convince people that 1 and 1 is 5.  What the hell are you talking about?  Obama is black and was the first viable black candidate in history.  He gets 91% of the black vote and you can't see what is patently obvious. Blacks voted for him because he's black. It doesn't mean he doesn't have any other atributes. As long as he passed the test (ie was not a conservative black like Allan Keyes) then he was okay and they went with him. End of story.


by handsomegent on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 08:15:35 PM EST
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And a person that says "end of story" is supposedly interested in discussion.

You fail. You just proved your words about wanting discussion on this matter a complete and total deceit or delusion on your part.


by Aris Katsaris on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 08:28:09 PM EST
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That's just ridiculous.  Hillary was polling much higher with blacks before the MLK flap and Bill opening his mouth to marginalize Barack Obama (by comparing him to Jesse Jackson).  That's a fact you can't change.


"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."
by AK Democrat on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 08:50:34 PM EST
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No, Clinton lost the black vote when Oprah came down from her perch atop Mount Olympus to give her official benediction.  There were internal memos from the Obama campaign talking about the strategy of playing the race card. How about Jesse Jackson Jr. proclaiming that "Hillary can cry for herself and not for Katrina victims". That bit of bull was barely mentioned by the press.  When Billy Shaheen made the logical comment that Saint Barack's admitted past drug use the media jumped all over that as an example of racebaiting.  As if only blacks smoked weed. Then there's the delightful black Mayor of Atlanta who on MLK Day insulted President Clinton to his FACE in church by proclaiming the false statement that "a black man becoming president was not a 'fairy tale', when Clinton said no such thing. The Obama people played the race card like a bass fiddle. The only thing that can be possibly interpreted as racist was when Bill said that SC voted for Jackson too.  (which is 100% true and was said to "marginalize" Obama, not to race bait).


by handsomegent on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 09:03:16 PM EST
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The MLK flap was absurd and a blatant example of faux outrage.  It took LBJ to fulfill MLK's dream was 100% accurate and the criticism was the worst kind of phony calculated outrage.


by handsomegent on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 09:07:46 PM EST
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Are you unable to post a single response to each of my posts? Do you have to multiply your post count in this manner?

You still didn't explain to me what the LBJ comment meant. Lots of things are 100% accurate, what was she saying with it? That Obama can't take the place of LBJ? That MLK couldn't become president?

AGAIN, what did that comment mean?


by Aris Katsaris on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 09:17:07 PM EST
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It meant you annoying pompous ASSHOLE, that LBJ signed the civil rights legislation, have you ever heard of the word LEGISLATION. HE SIGNED INTO LAW as PRESIDENT the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. So when Senator Clinton said it takes a president, she was correct.  By the by LBJ had a lot of courage in the mid sixties to do so. I remember that he was accused of being a trator to the south.  The Obama lovers and fellow travelers distorted HRC comments deliberately in order to suggest she was a racist and is smearing the memory of King, which she wasn't doing.  Clyburn and other Obamaites (he didn't fool me)I believe deliberately took her comments out of context as an excuse to signal to blacks in SC that we must unite behind Obama. Now, I have better things to do than argue with you.  I realize that a lot of people have a particular talent for ignoring the obvious.


by handsomegent on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 09:35:19 PM EST
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If you argument is that she merely found an opportunity to teach the mechanics of legislation to people, then you've already lost that argument.

"It takes a president". Well, DUH, that's probably the reason that Obama is running for one. Same as she is.

So I guess her point is that it's good they're not running for dog-catchers instead?

My god, do you intentionally lower your intelligence or something to spew such nonsense? "She meant nothing! She meant nothing bad, and she meant nothing good, and she meant nothing relevant either. She just kept her mouth running and started teaching people the specifics of legislation".

And btw LBJ was a fascist asshole who praised the dictatorship in my country as the "best system of government since the time of Pericles".


by Aris Katsaris on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 09:51:36 PM EST
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I called it the MLK flap for a reason--it wasn't really that big a deal, but why did Hillary have to say it in the first place?  What's the upside?  Short answer:  there is none.

You may be handsome, gent, but you certainly lack manners--and have it wrong in just about every possible way.


"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."
by AK Democrat on Sun Jun 08, 2008 at 05:47:18 AM EST
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What do you think you are, some sort of half-assed statistician? It IS very simple.  Obama's black and AA's wanted to support one of their own.


by handsomegent on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 08:17:30 PM EST
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Which doesn't explain why half of AA women didn't want to support Hillary, for her similarly historic candidacy.

Which doesn't explain why 90% of Latinos didn't go for Richardson.

Obama won many AAs by virtue of being black, certainly. But Hillary lost the remaining AAs because her campaign kept emphasizing how Obama was black and supposedly unelectable for that reason.

Obama campaign never emphasized Hillary's gender one way or another, never implied she was unelectable for that reason -- that's why he didn't lose women to the extent that Hillary lost black people.

Bottomline -- Hillary lost blacks, but Obama never lost women or whites (outside Appalachia). That's why he won - it's very simple indeed.


by Aris Katsaris on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 08:33:19 PM EST
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The Clinton campaign did no such thing.  They were accused of being racist because the word racist is thrown around very easily.  The Obama people will never accept the simple fact that he was the only black candidate, blacks support other black candidates regardless.  People don't like to talk about it but 75% of blacks believed in OJ's innocence while 85% of whites polled believed his guilt. I see things haven't changed too much.


by handsomegent on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 08:51:23 PM EST
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Again, you don't respond to any of my points. Again, you offer your conclusions as argument, without offering any actual argument.

You think that calling things "simple fact" proves your point.

Am done with you for now. Once you start responding to my argument, we can continue this.


by Aris Katsaris on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 09:20:03 PM EST
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Obama lost women and whites in PA, Ohio, New Hampshire, California, Oklahoma, New Mexico, New York, Rhode Island....


by handsomegent on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 08:53:22 PM EST
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No, I obviously meant he didn't lose them in the overwhelming way that Hillary lost black people, and you know I meant that.


by Aris Katsaris on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 09:14:13 PM EST
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Half of AA women didn't vote for Hillary because she was white and racial pride trumped gender pride.


by handsomegent on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 09:04:20 PM EST
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Don't forget Kerry and Kennedy. Massachusetts rejected their guy. This has happened in a lot of places.

I strongly believe the DNC did not speak out against sexism because the party machinery was behind Obama while they claimed neutrality. You can look back at their actions on his behalf and the inaction on her behalf.

The Clintons have helped a lot of black candidates raise money and campaigned to get them elected. Example Obama tried to unseat Bobby Rush on Chicago's southside and Hillary Clinton helped him beat back that challenge. Did Rush support her? No. John Lewis' defection was particularly shocking.

90% of the vote from any group is unprecedented.

Like you I can't stand with a party that did not take a stand on sexism.


"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony
by feelfree on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 04:03:16 AM EST
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You can argue that the AA vote was at least partly a "racial" vote.  But you can't reasonably argue that it was "racist."  What, all the African Americans that loved Hillary suddenly learned to hate white people (or women) over the course of a few months of the campaign?  Wow.  If racism evolves that quickly, we are all in trouble.


by ProgressiveDL on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 07:02:20 AM EST
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I stated this before. Hillary Clinton started out with almost every pundit on television calling her the presumptive nominee.

When Barack opens with his huge Illinois surprise the media shifted. "Wow, who's this Golden Child?" And then Clinton wins New Hampshire..."The come back kid!"

She loses eleven in a row, "What is Clinton doing wrong?" day after day. That's news analysis that you should expect.

They're watching a soap opera like drama unfold and they comment on it. They're not "anti" anything, really.

Now as soon as the math started really looking bleak from a realistic standpoint, they began reporting such. They did the same to Huckabee although his was more obvious. Toward the end of a 100 Meter sprint, if the loser is 10 meters behind or 30... does it really matter?

The media reported the laws of math and probability, that Clinton no realistic chance. And they were right. Now that the results are exactly as they said... suddenly the media caused it?

Are there hints of sexism in the media? Perhaps. But I think the diarist is exactly right.


Gobama!
by USArmyParatrooper on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 02:48:07 AM EST

I think it's not acknowledging (2.00 / 2)

her historic candidacy amid calls for her to drop out that makes it seem sexist.

Gail Collins explains it well in today's NYTimes.


by catfish2 on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 03:04:29 AM EST

Obama to give speech on Gender (1.00 / 0)

By the way, this is a very bad idea and I hope he does not do this to us:
Ms. Steinem advised that Mr. Obama deliver the same sort of ambitious speech about sex that he did on race. An aide said the campaign was considering such an address.

by catfish2 on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 03:05:49 AM EST

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I saw where she endorsed hi.  Here's the problem:  if he gives a speech about gender equity some will see it as pandering, if he doesn't others will see it as an insult.  What kind of bargain is that?  

As our standard bearer, I don't think it would be inappropriate to give a speech about gender equity and the deplorably ramifications of something like the Ledbetter decision and commit to working hard to rectify it.  That would be a nice start, actually, as far as I am concerned.  We haven't reached a place where the Democratic Presidential nominee can't talk about women's issues, one of the core principles of our party, have we?


"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."
by AK Democrat on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 03:24:48 AM EST
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Bravo. (2.00 / 2)

I absolutely agree. Clinton certainly faced sexism and misogyny in this race, as Obama faced racism. I believe both overcame the bigoted aspects of the campaign.
Obama's greatest weakness wasn't being black, it was his lack of experience.
Clinton's greatest weakness wasn't her gender, it was her vote for the war.
In fact, considering that this was a primary of two huge firsts, I'm amazed that race and gender didn't play a BIGGER part in the election process. (Chris Matthews and Geraldine Ferrarro excepted, of course.)  
by EvilAsh on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 03:54:02 AM EST

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The subtitle of this article is

"Clinton dead-enders and the crisis in the women's movement."

Hmmm.....I could be wrong but I think the article's intent is to insult. It doesn't fit with the "unity" theme.


"No self-respecting woman should wish or work for the success of a party that ignores her." - Susan B. Anthony
by feelfree on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 05:13:00 AM EST

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If you read the article, the subtitle is more than explained.

FWIW, she gets it right.


"The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."
by AK Democrat on Sat Jun 07, 2008 at 05:15:53 PM EST
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