Barack & George ~ Ivy League Brothers in Ignorance

I wouldn't waste all the bandwidth I could use to demonstrate the ignorance of George W. Bush. Beyond simple gaffes, he mangles words and makes remarks that clearly demonstrate a lack of vital knowledge for a man in his position. It's so bad, some have suggested he's dyslexic. Bottom line, I've never considered the guy very bright.

His supporters have countered to me he is an Ivy League man, a Yale grad. Admittedly, that casts some doubt on the conclusion Bush is dim. But I hold to that conclusion. Intellegence is a contraversial and tough thing to measure. To me, it's the retaining of information, processing and communicating it, and grasping concepts. Bush doesn't seem to do that well.  

The same is true about Barack Obama. A Harvard man, yes. But he's provided more than enough glimpses into his ignorance. Just lately, it's become obvious he couldn't answer some questions he ought to. What country liberated Auschwitz? What people do we honor on Memorial Day? With which of our enemies in World War II did FDR meet? Obama knows none of this, at least not until recently. It's obvious he often doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

I'm confident peppering him with a dozen or two such questions would leave him a puddle of blinks and uhhh's.

Obama is uncertain and halting in his speaking when not reading from a teleprompter. He'll 'uhhhh' several times in a sentence, searching for the simplest of words. As much as many want to believe otherwise, he's not very bright.

He is as intellectually challenged as Bush, but he is at least a progressive. Should he be elected, I fear he'll do for liberalism what Bush did for conservatism and set black Americans back a generation.

And, like Bush, he'd do it all with his Ivy League education.



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What law school did Hillary go to? (2.00 / 2)

Don't believe it was University of Arkansas. Or West Virginia.


From a Hillary supporter: We laughed as that became our mantra - "Barack can't win!"..... ....."he can go to hell and i'll pay for his way there."
by Cochrane on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:02:25 PM EST

Huh. (2.00 / 2)

I think that would be YALE.

Isn't that an Ivy?  No?  A community college, maybe?


Obama 2008!
by lollydee on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:12:52 PM EST
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Re: (none / 0)

go away already


by citizendave on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:02:57 PM EST

Please post a tip jar (2.00 / 1)


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by lizardbox on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:03:05 PM EST

Re: Please post a tip jar (none / 0)

SNARK, already?

common man thats old


http://www.truepat.org/
by CrushTheGOP2008 on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:04:08 PM EST
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Re: Please post a tip jar (none / 0)

I just want to show Begala what I think of his diary.


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by lizardbox on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:04:56 PM EST
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Re: Please post a tip jar (none / 0)

Ha I got you,  generaly trollers with no power on this site never put a tip jar.


http://www.truepat.org/
by CrushTheGOP2008 on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:10:52 PM EST
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LOL (2.00 / 1)

Hillary went to Yale, too.

Idiot.


No way. No how. No McCain.
by freedom78 on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:03:19 PM EST

DONT FEED THE TROLLS! (none / 0)

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http://www.truepat.org/
by CrushTheGOP2008 on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:03:44 PM EST

uh huh (none / 0)

This is as credible as a Scott McClellan press conference.

Seriously, Obama would run intellectual rings around you in any context.  Certainly he's put the Clintons into a conniption.


by nightsweat on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:04:01 PM EST

It is obvious (2.00 / 2)

you did not attend Yale.


by notme54 on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:05:21 PM EST

Ivy League Myth is shattering (1.00 / 0)

with George W. Bush and others.


by catfish2 on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:19:34 PM EST

And Hillary Clinton, (none / 0)

and Phil Bredesen, Bill Foster, Al Gore, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Mandy Grunwald, David Ignatius, John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf, Ogden Nash

For starters.

Are all of these people stupid?


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:47:25 PM EST
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Logic 101 (1.00 / 0)

think about taking it.

Ivy League people are generally smart. A few idiots are Ivy League grads.

Therefore,
a) all Ivy League grads are idiots
b) all Ivy League people are smart
c) contrary to previously believed myth, an Ivy League degree does not prove one's intelligence/ability. It is possible some Ivy League grads are smart, but by no means are all of them capable and smart.


by catfish2 on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:16:23 PM EST
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Re: Logic 101 (none / 0)

huh?


by slynch on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:31:26 PM EST
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Re: Logic 101 (none / 0)

I wish I had been this concise.


Donate to Hillary Now!
by guazatragicness on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:32:54 PM EST
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Re: Logic 101 (2.00 / 1)

I'm just too lazy to go through all those steps you went through in your comment!


by slynch on Fri May 30, 2008 at 12:29:42 AM EST
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Re: Logic 101 (2.00 / 1)

Dusts off undergrad knowledge...

Huh?  Let's review the course notes...

Ivy League people are generally smart. A few idiots are Ivy League grads.

Translation:
  1. Some ILG are S.
  2. Some ~S are ILG.
("~" being "not").  These two statements are equivalent, so we just have (1), which implies neither your (a) nor your (b).  But even if we assume your (a) and (b), you're wrong:
  1. all ILG are ~S.
  2. all ILG are S.
  3. (3) and (4) => all ILG are (S and ~S).
And it turns out that if you assume a contradiction, you can prove anything at all.  Specifically, we can both prove and disprove your (c).


Donate to Hillary Now!
by guazatragicness on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:31:45 PM EST
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P. S. (none / 0)

If you want another logic example, check out my summary of bobswern's latest.


Donate to Hillary Now!
by guazatragicness on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:47:20 PM EST
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michael - what does this diary accomplish? (2.00 / 2)


"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum
by canadian gal on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:20:47 PM EST

better yet. dedicated to mikeyb. (2.00 / 4)


"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum
by canadian gal on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:21:42 PM EST
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Good correction (2.00 / 1)

remember Mr. Begala is a RW troll in the same boat as itoverorc...


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:39:46 PM EST
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Re: better yet. dedicated to mikeyb. (2.00 / 1)

Wow I never knew well fed trolls have so much fun eating (or posting troll diaries).  No woder they do it all the time.

"PARTY IN HIS TUMMY!"

oh yeah..


by Why Not on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:47:45 PM EST
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Re: better yet. dedicated to mikeyb. (2.00 / 1)

Writer 1: God I hate doing this children's crap.  I keep dreaming of doing movies.  Not just endless romantic comedy dreck, but stuff with integrity.  Like Woody Allen stuff, but with less lechery.

Writer 2: Preach it brother!  But the LA rent is killing me, so I do what I have to.

Writer 1: Say, you still have any of those 'shrooms?

Writer 2: Um, maybe... why?

Writer 1: Just a hunch...  I'll bet we could really fuck with some little kids' minds and have a great time doing it.

Writer 2: Righteous insight, my brother.


And the rest is history.  Pure awesome, canadian girl!


Donate to Hillary Now!
by guazatragicness on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:40:59 PM EST
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bwaaaaaaaaaa!!!! (none / 0)

Intentional irony?

"Intellegence is a contraversial and tough thing to measure."

Mike, you fail - at blogging, at smear campaigns and  at life in general.

Go away, fool.


by Slim Tyranny on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:25:57 PM EST

you got this right. (2.00 / 1)

Barack Obama is to the left wing, what George Bush was to the right wing.

A PUPPET


by nikkid on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:26:44 PM EST

Wrong (2.00 / 1)


by Slim Tyranny on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:28:43 PM EST
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By the way, this trash includes a favorite (2.00 / 1)

One of my favorite racist talking points is that electing Obama would "set back" African Americans and the civil rights movement by years and years.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.  No doubt the African American community thanks you for your faux concern.

It must suck to be a bigot, going through life filled with so much hate.


by Slim Tyranny on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:28:28 PM EST

Re: Barack & George ~ Ivy League (2.00 / 1)

I honestly don't know how you still have an account here.  That said, your idiocy humors me more than that of other diarists.  You should really combine your diaries - Obama's a stupid Harvard man supported by college-age, fat illiterates.


by rfahey22 on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:34:37 PM EST

Re: Barack & George ~ Ivy League (2.00 / 2)


I honestly don't know how you still have an account here.

Isn't that amazing? You can be a completely worthless drive-by-troll and still be able to post hitjobs every other day. Yet you recommend the wrong diary, and you're basically thrown into purgatory.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:06:22 PM EST
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Re: Barack & George ~ Ivy League (none / 0)

Yeah, it boggles the mind.


by rfahey22 on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:10:51 PM EST
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oh my! (2.00 / 4)

lolcats funny cat pictures


Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008
by zcflint05 on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:36:19 PM EST

Re: Barack & George (none / 0)

There is no evidence to Obama didn't know the answer to the questions you suggest he doesn't... What a ridiculous diary.


Matthew25Network.com
by cardboard 1 on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:38:59 PM EST

Re: Barack & George ~ (2.00 / 3)

"He is as intellectually challenged as Bush"

Oh, wow.  Just wow.  I mean, sheeeit.

Mike, Mike, Mike!

You ain't even trying anymore.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:41:45 PM EST

That's amazing. (2.00 / 1)

I didn't think it was possible to compare Bush with Obama.  They are like...polar oposites.

But black is white and dumb is smart in this election (I guess).

Are you done yet?

Seriously, are you done?


by DawnG on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:54:36 PM EST

Michael.. (2.00 / 1)

...take a break, and go play in traffic...


Obama supporter who is damn glad Hillary Clinton is a Democrat!!
by hootie4170 on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:55:16 PM EST

Intelligence? (none / 0)

I have had the pleasure and privilege of meeting with several Nobel laureates, and knowing well a number of members of the National Academy and the Royal Society. Trust me, Obama's intelligence is the real thing, of a very high caliber. Slight verbal dysfluencies show nothing one way or the other about intelligence.


by Wee Mama on Thu May 29, 2008 at 10:56:19 PM EST

I'm beginning to find this diarist hilarious. (none / 0)

Really. I hope he continues to post this dreck every day. Can anyone be a worse reflection on whoever it is he's supposed to be supporting?


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:05:57 PM EST

I get it now! (none / 0)

You are doing a parody of a right wing troll!

Oh, well that makes complete sense. Particularly your unbending desire to stay in character!


John McCain wants to make abortion illegal
by Lost Thought on Thu May 29, 2008 at 11:28:03 PM EST


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