NY Times: The Low Road to Victory

The New York Times, which, as you recall, endorsed Hillary Clinton at the time of the NY primary, now suggests that it's time for her to accept the obvious.

She did not get the huge win she needed tonight. She doesn't have the delegates. She doesn't have the popular votes. She's broke.

The Pennsylvania campaign, which produced yet another inconclusive result on Tuesday, was even meaner, more vacuous, more desperate, and more filled with pandering than the mean, vacuous, desperate, pander-filled contests that preceded it.

Voters are getting tired of it; it is demeaning the political process; and it does not work. It is past time for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton to acknowledge that the negativity, for which she is mostly responsible, does nothing but harm to her, her opponent, her party and the 2008 election.

If nothing else, self interest should push her in that direction. Mrs. Clinton did not get the big win in Pennsylvania that she needed to challenge the calculus of the Democratic race. It is true that Senator Barack Obama outspent her 2-to-1. But Mrs. Clinton and her advisers should mainly blame themselves, because, as the political operatives say, they went heavily negative and ended up squandering a good part of what was once a 20-point lead.

On the eve of this crucial primary, Mrs. Clinton became the first Democratic candidate to wave the bloody shirt of 9/11. A Clinton television ad -- torn right from Karl Rove's playbook -- evoked the 1929 stock market crash, Pearl Harbor, the Cuban missile crisis, the cold war and the 9/11 attacks, complete with video of Osama bin Laden. "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen," the narrator intoned.

If that was supposed to bolster Mrs. Clinton's argument that she is the better prepared to be president in a dangerous world, she sent the opposite message on Tuesday morning by declaring in an interview on ABC News that if Iran attacked Israel while she were president: "We would be able to totally obliterate them."

By staying on the attack and not engaging Mr. Obama on the substance of issues like terrorism, the economy and how to organize an orderly exit from Iraq, Mrs. Clinton does more than just turn off voters who don't like negative campaigning. She undercuts the rationale for her candidacy that led this page and others to support her: that she is more qualified, right now, to be president than Mr. Obama.

Mr. Obama is not blameless when it comes to the negative and vapid nature of this campaign. He is increasingly rising to Mrs. Clinton's bait, undercutting his own claims that he is offering a higher more inclusive form of politics. When she criticized his comments about "bitter" voters, Mr. Obama mocked her as an Annie Oakley wannabe. All that does is remind Americans who are on the fence about his relative youth and inexperience.

No matter what the high-priced political operatives (from both camps) may think, it is not a disadvantage that Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton share many of the same essential values and sensible policy prescriptions. It is their strength, and they are doing their best to make voters forget it. And if they think that only Democrats are paying attention to this spectacle, they're wrong.

After seven years of George W. Bush's failed with-us-or-against-us presidency, all American voters deserve to hear a nuanced debate -- right now and through the general campaign -- about how each candidate will combat terrorism, protect civil liberties, address the housing crisis and end the war in Iraq.

It is getting to be time for the superdelegates to do what the Democrats had in mind with they created superdelegates: settle a bloody race that cannot be won at the ballot box. Mrs. Clinton once had a big lead among the party elders, but has been steadily losing it, in large part because of her negative campaign. If she is ever to have a hope of persuading these most loyal of Democrats to come back to her side, let alone win over the larger body of voters, she has to call off the dogs.

It's time to bring the party together to make sure that John McCain doesn't give us a third Bush term. There's work to be done. Tons of work.

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Are you citing an opinion piece on the NYTimes (2.00 / 0)

as being reflective of the NYTimes? Could you be more disingenuous?
by linc on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 10:48:17 PM EST

It's a NYT Editorial. Your point is? (2.00 / 1)

Note the statement "She undercuts the rationale for her candidacy that led this page and others to support her". This is, of course, a reference to their earlier endorsement of her. Maybe you'd like to clarify how exactly one gets any more "reflective of the NYTimes"? Or is it the case, perhaps, that it is YOUR rhetoric that is disingenuous.
It is not because I cannot explain that you won't understand. It is because you won't understand that I cannot explain. - Elie Wiesel
by Sumo Vita on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:23:13 PM EST
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Re: Are you citing an opinion piece on the NYTimes (none / 0)

Unfortunately for at least the last month, probably the last two, it's seemed fairly clear to me that the NYT has been considerably biased towards Obama.


by Apostle on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 12:04:20 AM EST
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Voters are getting tired of it""??? I guess they mean BO voters not HRC voters.

I guess they missed the memo from the BO campaign saying to play up race after NH.  

We can all agree that after today the whole left wing NE liberal crowd will go after HRC big time.

daivd


by giusd on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 10:49:36 PM EST

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Nono. I'm a BO voter and I love that the Clintons' are destroying their legacies. I never liked them anyway. They destroyed my community and the communities of many of my clients. Karma is a bitch.


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:22:53 PM EST
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Sure because HRC and her supporters are not real democrats.  Blab blab blab.  Will you be bring up race again.  You seen to do this quite a bit in your posts.  Maybe your "MLK" nonsense posts about how he is a racist??  

david


by giusd on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:27:44 PM EST
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Who said anything about her supporters?  Bill signed IIRIRA and fought against equalization of the drug guidelines. Clinton is against retroactive application of the new drug guidelines and for removing due process from the immigration system for immigrants who commit crimes.

You think MLK was a racist?


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:30:05 PM EST
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Nice try dude.  i know you are a classic race baiter.  You are the one who said this and not me.  Look back at your posts. But i know this is your mode of action.  You call MLK a racist and then try to trick some one to take you bait and then you accuse them of being a racist.  Like you just did.

Nice try. I never said MLD was a racist you did.  I think your race baiting needs a little more work.

david


by giusd on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:40:06 PM EST
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I called MLK a racist? No. I said MLK said things about white people and white America that were similar to Rev. Wright said. If you think those things are racist then that's on you. I don't think either of them were racists.

Though your accusations of me playing the race card are funny.


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:46:37 PM EST
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I'm sorry but i don't think the Clinton campaign has been low at all. I think Obama's relationships with questionable characters are fair game. I'd be upset if she didn't bring some of this up and considering what is out there with obama i think she's been quite restrained, more restrained than the gop will be for sure.


by the Walrus on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 10:51:03 PM EST

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So the media should ask her about the cult  she belongs to and about all that foreign money they've gotten? Oh. And why she doesn't wear a flag pin? All fair game?


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:24:36 PM EST
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nice signature line.


by the Walrus on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:33:36 PM EST
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MLK was the shiznit.


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:47:42 PM EST
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Re: oh look - another Obambi Whine! (none / 0)

I know it doesn't fit your name and your oh-so-tough net persona, but could you at least try to be civil?



Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 10:54:07 PM EST

This was written... (2.00 / 1)

before any votes were counted. In fact, as I write this over 20% of the votes are still out and she has a 10% lead.

Didn't they consider that Obama's horrible debate performance had more to do with his defeat than her ads?  17% decided since that debate. And if it wasn't for his full out negativity her lead would have been even larger.

This is a hack job.


by ineedalife on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 10:54:47 PM EST

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HRC wins by well over 200,000 votes.  Wow.   My guess is 12% and 225,000 votes.  I mean he got clocked tonight.  And his whinning in his speach will not help.  HRC gave a great positive speach and BO gave the blame america first speach.  Big business, evil lobbyiest, change, etc it sounded really weak.

It was really awful and matched his debate performance.  He really did look academic and elitist.  My guess is he takes a big hit in IN and loses by 10 and barely wins in NC.  Then he gets clocked in WV and KY.  You know states that HRC could win in the GE.

david


by giusd on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:32:29 PM EST

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She can't win. It's too late. The math doesn't work. She should have taken the race more seriously I guess. She let some moron get so far ahead she can't catch him.


My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!
by RLMcCauley on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:49:15 PM EST
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The media's darling can't close the deal... (none / 0)

It's so funny to watch the media recoil in horror as rank and file Democrats continue to support her candidacy.  If anything points to the absolute bias of the media to Obama vs. Clinton, this is it.  It's pathetic, really.  Maureen Dowd's column today?  What a horrid excuse for a human being she is.  Go back to your hovel, Dowd.  You don't have a clue.

This wishful thinking that somehow politics is going to change because someone wills it is ludicrous on its face.  The GOP is not going bow to the altar of Barack Obama's "Hope" mantra.  They'll be coming loaded for a fight.  

It needs to be repeated:  If you can't put away a challenger with your overwhelming money advantage and overwhelming media support, you really should reconsider your candidacy.  


by DaTruth on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 07:52:01 AM EST

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If that was supposed to bolster Mrs. Clinton's argument that she is the better prepared to be president in a dangerous world, she sent the opposite message on Tuesday morning by declaring in an interview on ABC News that if Iran attacked Israel while she were president: "We would be able to totally obliterate them."

I am writing the NYT's.  This op-ed is a hit piece and totally misrepresented what Senator Clinton stated and why.

SOB's.


by colebiancardi on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 09:45:57 AM EST


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